[FA Worldmusic] Angelique's Grammy

Evangeline Kim evangelinekim at verizon.net
Tue Feb 12 22:39:39 AST 2008


I'm forwarding this to Angelique.

Calm down,

Evangeline


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Steve Hochman
  To: Evangeline Kim
  Cc: fa-worldmusic at folk.org
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] Angelique's Grammy


  Angelique felt that what she had to say was important. You clearly don't
agree with her.






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  On Feb 12, 2008, at 6:29 PM, Evangeline Kim wrote:


    Your reporting does little good to what is important.  Angelique is a
great artist.

    I'm not hoping to hear very much more from this thread.

    Angelique is a winner.

    Evangeline

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      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Steve Hochman
      To: Evangeline Kim
      Cc: fa-worldmusic at folk.org
      Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:51 PM
      Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] Angelique's Grammy


      Evangeline, I get what you're saying, but remember the context. I'm a
journalist who was covering the Grammy Awards in the backstage print press
room, and Angelique came back to address us and made those comments....
without even being asked a question. She just started talking and after saying
it was great to win a Grammy questioned the category. How is reporting that
mean and/or insensitive?


       I made no statement as to whether she did or did not deserve the award,
which is as already demonstrated in this email group open for debate. There's
no question that her recognition has a lot to do with her crossover strides
and the fact that this album is full of relatively high-profile non-African
performers. I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of this record, which is a matter of
taste and taste alone. Many people love it and rightfully so.


      But the reason I thought her comments were worth printing was that I
admired her forthrightness and willingness to question the very process that
brought her honors that night. Ignoring what she said, not giving her
heartfelt statements exposure, would hardly be a way to celebrate her spirit.






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      On Feb 12, 2008, at 5:29 PM, Evangeline Kim wrote:


        GUYS, I love you all,

        However, I found Hochman's entry about Angelique awful in the way that
        journalists can be very mean and totally insensitive to what is the
most
        important:  THE. GREAT AFRICANS. WHO. INSPIRE. THE. WORLD. ARE NEVER
        RECOGNIZED IN THEIR LIFETIME. YETL -- Some journalists are only after
        'sensationalist' issues and skew artistic greatness to puff up their
        so-called 'authority.'

        If you look at Afropop.org and their magnificent  achievements as far
as
        honoring Africa's great artists, you'll understand deeper and better -
how
        Angelique has long deserved this Grammy honor...

        Honor Angelique: All of Africa does for her great work for the
children and
        mothers all over Africa as well as the depth and beauty of her great
music--
        Angelique is one of the greatest artists form Africa  today --  that
she
        introduces from Benin, her country.  Listen to all of her great, great
        music.

        Best,
        Evangeline

        At 14:12 -0500 12/2/08, Robert Weisberg wrote:

          Ah, the old 'world music' semantic conundrum again.  Guess Angelique
is

          not afraid to bite the un-genre that feeds her!



          (Although maybe then it's somehow appropriate that she lives in the
US,

          where Grammies aside, 'world music' is somewhat less of a
recognized,

          organized, marketed concepted than in Europe.)


        You know, it would be really easy for these world music loathers to
        turn the awards down but they never do, do they?

        In the UK, a musician called Nitin Sawhney is always banging on about
        how he hates the term, that it's a restricting ghetto for musicians
        blah blah blah, but he turned up the collect his BBC Radio 3 Award
        for World Music and - not once, but twice - applied for and got a
        showcase at Womex. I hesitate to use the word "hypocritical", but . .
        .  if they turned it down, then one of the many artists who DO
        appreciate what a boost this concept has given to their own careers
        and often their culture too could receive it instead.

        And just think - no such thing as bad publicity - they could actually
        cash in on gaining column centimetres by the very act of turning the
        thing down. Good result all round!


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        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Robert Weisberg" <robwv at panix.com>
        To: "FA-Worldmusic ((((E-mail))))" <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
        Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:35 PM
        Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] Angelique's Grammy



          Actually I see that she won in the best 'contemporary' world music

          category; 'traditional' world music is a whole other category.  Now

          technically, if you consider pure African genre recordings
'traditional',

          so that any soukous cd, any benga cd, any maskanda cd as belongs to
the

          traditional category - then Djin Djin winds up much higher up the
list.

          At least for African music.  So allow me to correct myself, kinda.
Sorry

          for emailing without thinking...





          Rob W



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          On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Robert Weisberg wrote:



            Ah, the old 'world music' semantic conundrum again.  Guess
Angelique is

            not afraid to bite the un-genre that feeds her!



            (Although maybe then it's somehow appropriate that she lives in
the US,

            where Grammies aside, 'world music' is somewhat less of a
recognized,

            organized, marketed concepted than in Europe.)



            Of course, if there really is a best 'world music' album, I'm not
sure

            that Djin Djin is it.  Nor would it be even the best African
album, in my

            opinion (and I doubt I'm alone there).  But that's ANOTHER story -
the

            Grammy conundrum...



            Rob W (WFMU)



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            On Tue, 12 Feb 2008, Steve Hochman wrote:



              Some sharp remarks from Kidjo on her Grammy win in my Around the
World

              column this week, as well as notes on fellow victors the Soweto
Gospel

              Choir and Little Joe y La Familia:



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              as always, share and enjoy!



              Steve

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