[FA Worldmusic] Fwd: surge of diplomacy

Tom Frouge tom at avokado.net
Fri Sep 14 19:47:08 ADT 2007


Posted this earlier, but only to Dmitri!


Our society is run by insane people for insane reasons  John Lennon



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Tom Frouge <tom at avokado.net>
> Date: September 14, 2007 1:38:45 PM MDT
> To: Dmitri Vietze <music at rockpaperscissors.biz>
> Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] surge of diplomacy
>
> We all need to stop using the neo-cons' language, which spins
> things "positively". To "surge" is to move powerfully upward or
> forward.  The "surge" of troops in Iraq should be stated in manner
> that describes what it is: "an escalation" (which means to increase
> rapidly) or simply put a troop build up.
>
> That said, love to see Dmitri's suggestion taken up by the Dems,
> although I wouldn't hold my breath unless they get behind something
> like Kucinich's plan, which seems unlikely.
>
> Our society is run by insane people for insane reasons  John Lennon
>
>
>
> On Sep 14, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Dmitri Vietze wrote:
>
>>> The world could use musical 'peacekeepers'...
>>
>> I keep wondering when the Democrats are gonna realize that what we
>> need in
>> the "Middle East" is a surge of diplomacy. Put a hundurd million
>> bucks into
>> that and see what happens. Send over 30,000 conflict resolution
>> experts,
>> cross-cultural diplomats, and musical activists and see what
>> happens. Never
>> been done before. I still think the USA faces a major PR problem
>> and the
>> globally-minded music field could help a lot.
>>
>> Much respect,
>>
>> Dmitri Vietze
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dore Stein" <tangentsradio at gmail.com>
>> To: <marco.werman at bbc.co.uk>
>> Cc: <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] Joe Zawinul Tribute
>>
>>
>>> On 9/14/07, Marco Werman <marco.werman at bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wow!  Thanks for the list Dore.  Reads like a musical UN!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Marco
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The world could use musical 'peacekeepers'...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Back in the '60's the biggest names in jazz were sponsored by the
>>> U.S.
>>> State
>>> Department on world tours. In 1960 Herbie Mann traveled to 15
>>> African
>>> countries which resulted in the "Common Ground" album featuring
>>> Babatunde
>>> Olatunje. In 1963 Duke and his Orchestra toured Sri Lanka, Egypt,
>>> India,
>>> Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Pakistan, Iran, and Turkey - which was
>>> commemorated
>>> by the "Far East Suite". It should have been labeled the Near or
>>> Middle
>>> Eastern Suite but what the hay.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: fa-worldmusic-bounces+marco.werman=bbc.co.uk at folk.org
>>>> [mailto:fa-worldmusic-bounces+marco.werman=bbc.co.uk at folk.org]
>>>> On Behalf
>>>> Of Dore Stein
>>>> Sent: 14 September 2007 10:21
>>>> To: Yusuf Gandhi
>>>> Cc: fa-worldmusic at folk.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] Joe Zawinul Tribute
>>>>
>>>> Joe found top talent from everywhere to play with him starting with
>>>> Weather Report and throughout his career.
>>>>
>>>> Zawinul's 1996 "My People" is a prime example.
>>>>
>>>> His Core Band on the recording was The Zawinul Syndicate:
>>>>
>>>> Paco Sery (Ivory Coast)
>>>>
>>>> Matthew Garrison (USA/Italy)
>>>>
>>>> Gary Poulson (USA)
>>>>
>>>> Arto Tuncboyaciyan (Anatolia)
>>>>
>>>> Guest Vocal Soloists were:
>>>>
>>>> Salif Keita (Mali)
>>>>
>>>> Thania Sanchez (Venezuela)
>>>>
>>>> Burhan Ocal  (Turkey)
>>>>
>>>> Richarad Bona (Cameroon)
>>>>
>>>> Bolot (Altai Mountains/South Siberia)
>>>>
>>>> Duke Ellington (sampled spoken word)
>>>>
>>>> Musicians:
>>>>
>>>> Alex Acuna (Peru- former Weather Report member)
>>>>
>>>> Trilok Gurtu (India)
>>>>
>>>> Rudy Regaldo (Venezuela)
>>>>
>>>> Michito Sanchez (Cuba/USA)
>>>>
>>>> Souleyman Doumbia (Mali)
>>>>
>>>> Tal Bergmann (Israel)
>>>>
>>>> Amit Chaterjee (India)
>>>>
>>>> Osmane Kouyake (Mali)
>>>>
>>>> Cheick Tidane Seck (Mali)
>>>>
>>>> Bobby Malach (USA/Poland)
>>>>
>>>> Djene Doumbouya (Guinea)
>>>>
>>>> Assitan Dembele (Ivory Coast)
>>>>
>>>> Beto Sabala (Peru)
>>>>
>>>> Kenny O'Braian (Venezuela)
>>>>
>>>> Lucho Avelleneda (Peru)
>>>>
>>>> Mike Mossman (USA)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/14/07, Yusuf Gandhi <Yusuf at fourquartersent.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Joe Zawinul supported and performed with musicians from
>>>>> almost
>>>>
>>>>> every corner of the world, not just Africa, so it would be
>>>>> inappropriate to narrow it down to a couple of names. However,
>>>>> he was
>>>>> not a publicity hound, so many people did not realize the
>>>>> impact he
>>>>> had on music and musicians around the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yusuf Gandhi
>>>>> President
>>>>> Four Quarters Entertainment, Inc.
>>>>> 555 8th Avenue, Suite #1803
>>>>> New York, NY 10018
>>>>> Tel: 212 564 8855
>>>>> Fax: 212 564 8865
>>>>> E: yusuf at fourquartersent.com
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: fa-worldmusic-bounces+yusuf=fourquartersent.com at folk.org
>>>>> [mailto:fa-worldmusic-bounces
>>>>> +yusuf=fourquartersent.com at folk.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Marco Werman
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:38 AM
>>>>> To: Dore Stein; angel at worldmusiccentral.org
>>>>> Cc: fa-worldmusic at folk.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] Joe Zawinul Tribute
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's not forget either Zawinul's recent support of two African
>>>>> artists in particular, Salif Keita and Richard Bona.
>>>>> Marco Werman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: fa-worldmusic-bounces+marco.werman=bbc.co.uk at folk.org
>>>>> [mailto:fa-worldmusic-bounces+marco.werman=bbc.co.uk at folk.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Dore Stein
>>>>> Sent: 13 September 2007 19:00
>>>>> To: angel at worldmusiccentral.org
>>>>> Cc: fa-worldmusic at folk.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] Joe Zawinul Tribute
>>>>>
>>>>> When news of Zawinul's passing hit, I sent this tribute to my
>>>>> radio
>>>>> email list. I think it's worth sharing.
>>>>>
>>>>> peace,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dore Stein
>>>>> tangents.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is with stunned sadness that I pass the news that Joe
>>>>> Zawinul died
>>>>> this morning of a rare form of skin cancer.
>>>>>
>>>>> There will be a Tangents tribute on Sept 22 from 9p-midnight
>>>>> (91.7,
>>>>> kalw.org ).
>>>>>
>>>>> In the pantheon of 'Tangential' artists, Joe shares the top
>>>>> spot with
>>>>> a select few. He was an innovator, compositional genius and
>>>>> cross-pollinating pioneer.
>>>>>
>>>>> He led the most important world jazz fusion group of all time:
>>>>> Weather
>>>>
>>>>> Report. Of all the jazz fusion bands that arose from the Miles
>>>>> Davis
>>>>> personnel of the late 60's/early 70's, Weather Report led by
>>>>> Joe and
>>>>> Wayne Shorter (and eventually included Jaco Pastorius) stands
>>>>> the test
>>>>
>>>>> of time better than any other. I say with all due respect to John
>>>>> McLauglin's Mahavishnu Orchestra, Chick Corea's Return to Forever,
>>>>> Tony William's Lifetime and Herbie Hancock's Headhunters.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Zawinul wrote my favorite song: "In A Silent Way" which he
>>>>> contributed to the Miles album of the same name.
>>>>>
>>>>> He recorded on five Miles Davis albums including the ground
>>>>> breaking
>>>>> "Bitches Brew" recording.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a short excerpt about Miles from a 1997 Anil Prasad
>>>>> interview:
>>>>> innerviews.org/inner/zawinul.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Anil: How did Miles influence your life?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe: I wouldn't say that he influenced my life.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anil: Many point to the work you did with Miles in the late
>>>>> '60s as
>>>>> the music that most significantly impacted your musical evolution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe: It is the other way around, frankly speaking. I think he
>>>>> got more
>>>>
>>>>> from me than I got from him in that respect.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe also revolutionized the use of electronics in jazz. No one
>>>>> could
>>>>> make a synthesizer or keyboard sound warm and organic like Joe.
>>>>> Listen
>>>>
>>>>> to "Peace" from his 1986 "Dialects" solo cd. It is solo synth
>>>>> that is
>>>>> emotive and moving.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's another excerpt from the aforementioned interview:
>>>>>
>>>>> "...we had some funny backlash from people who said we were
>>>>> selling
>>>>> out because we were using electronic instruments. It's such
>>>>> idiocy.
>>>>> It's ridiculous that someone could place that much importance
>>>>> on the
>>>>> instrument to be that great. An instrument is not important. It
>>>>> is the
>>>>
>>>>> way one plays that is important. Instruments don't play by
>>>>> themselves.
>>>>> A piano is certainly not a better instrument than a
>>>>> synthesizer, but
>>>>> if a synthesizer is played like a piano, it becomes a very bad
>>>> instrument.
>>>>> It doesn't work. You can't play a trumpet like a violin it
>>>>> doesn't go.
>>>>> That's the problem the players, not the instrument. Any
>>>>> instrument is
>>>>> a wonderful thing."
>>>>>
>>>>> Zawinul grew up playing Roma (Gypsy) tunes and studying classical
>>>>> music in Vienna (his birthplace). After seeing the film "Stormy
>>>>> Weather" some
>>>>> 24 times, he got hooked on jazz. He won a scholarship to the
>>>>> Berklee
>>>>> School of Music and emigrated to the States in 1959. He joined
>>>>> Maynard
>>>>
>>>>> Ferguson's band and then became a fixture with Cannonball
>>>>> Adderley and
>>>>
>>>>> stayed until 1970. As part of Adderley's group, Zawinul wrote the
>>>>> classic "Mercy, Mercy, Mercy" which hit number 11 on the
>>>>> Billboard pop
>>>>
>>>>> charts in 1967
>>>>>
>>>>> I interviewed Joe around 1986. It was like talking to the
>>>>> Muhammed Ali
>>>>
>>>>> of jazz. Joe, after all, was also a boxer and talked the talk, and
>>>>> walked the walk. He was a straight talker and let you know how
>>>>> good he
>>>>
>>>>> was. But he always backed it up and was as entertaining in
>>>>> person as
>>>>> he was on stage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a vintage Zawinul excerpt again from
>>>>> innerviews.org/inner/zawinul.html:
>>>>>
>>>>> "...people find out so late. You know HipHop? What is HipHop? I
>>>>> invented the beat of HipHop! In 1970, I invented it and no drummer
>>>>> could play it and I did this album with Weather Report called
>>>>> Sweetnighter that has a track called "125th Street Congress."
>>>>> It has
>>>>> the original HipHop beat and I have about 50 recordings of rap and
>>>>> HipHop groups using a sample of the original song. Many other
>>>>> things I
>>>>
>>>>> did in the 60s I'm not complaining about it, but since we're
>>>>> talking
>>>>> about it, I might as well tell you a lot of people got credit
>>>>> for it,
>>>> which is alright with me.
>>>>> But it's a fact I did this stuff so many years ago. What is called
>>>>> world music today I started the damn thing!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Zawinul, along with other pioneering cross-pollinating artists
>>>>> like
>>>>> John McLaughlin, Don Cherry, etc. increasingly explored other
>>>>> music
>>>>> cultures and integrated these influences into their music. Joe
>>>>> especially loved African music. He produced Salif Keita's "Amen"
>>>>> recording. Sabine Kabongo (former Zap Mama), Richard Bona, Cheick
>>>>> Tidiane Seck, Souleyman Doumbia, Etienne Mbappe, Pape Abdou
>>>>> Seck (from
>>>>
>>>>> Wock), among others, all recorded and/or performed with
>>>>> Zawinul.  He
>>>>> also worked on a Mahotella Queens album. (not sure which one -
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> know?)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll leave you with a final interview excerpt where Zawinul
>>>>> answers a
>>>>> question about his own mortality: innerviews.org/inner/
>>>>> zawinul.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Anil Prasad: "Do you ever think about your own mortality?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Zawinul: "I'm not afraid of death. The reason could be that
>>>>> I grew
>>>>
>>>>> up in an environment in which I was always exposed to death
>>>>> every day
>>>>> for years. Experiencing bomb attacks in the night and day and
>>>>> actual
>>>>> war in your country is very different than watching a war from
>>>>> 1000
>>>>> miles away from your home. We had the war right there in my
>>>>> house. The
>>>>
>>>>> Russians came in and many of my friends died, so this type of life
>>>>> prepares you for death. An 11 or 12 year-old kid in America
>>>>> will play
>>>>> with a rubber duck, whereas I used to bury people dead soldiers
>>>>> and
>>>>> all that. When I was 12, I used to steal horses from the Russian
>>>>> wagons and kill them for food. I ploughed fields with Oxen.
>>>>> That was
>>>>> my life. The kids were the men. I was trained for the military
>>>>> I was a
>>>> bazooka man.
>>>>> But going back to mortality, I felt when the war was over,
>>>>> everything
>>>>> was easy, but I went through some very hard times in America
>>>>> too. I
>>>>> was the only white guy to play with black bands in the South
>>>>> during
>>>>> segregation. I often had to sit in the bottom of the car when
>>>>> we drove
>>>>
>>>>> through certain parts of the South. Those kinds of things never
>>>>> phased
>>>>
>>>>> me I wanted to play music with the best and I could play on
>>>>> that level
>>>>
>>>>> with the best."
>>>>>
>>>>> Heaven just got a hell of a musician.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/12/07, Angel Romero <aromero at ibiblio.org > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very sad news for the music world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.worldmusiccentral.org/article.php/
>>>>> jazz_prodigy_joe_zawinul_
>>>>> di
>>>>> es_at
>>>>> _75
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Angel Romero
>>>>>> World Music Central
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>>>>>> Durham, NC 27704-4406
>>>>>> USA
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