[FA Worldmusic] FA-Worldmusic Digest, Vol 20, Issue 7
glenn tamir
gtamir613 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 5 04:06:05 ADT 2007
One may disagree with the decision to cancel the Khalifi concert, one
may say that it was wrong, but one may not say that the decision was
"racist."
Just exactly what "race" of people was wronged here?
Bottom line is that Khalifi is both "musical" and "political." That's
why some people disagree with his message.
On 10/5/07, fa-worldmusic-request at folk.org
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> 1. Re :Experiments in Marketing Global Music in the Online
> (Cantor Navas, Judy)
> 2. Second Life (Dmitri Vietze)
> 3. Fw: Reject Racism! Support The Marcel Khalife Concert in San
> Diego! (Dmitri Vietze)
> 4. Re: Fw: Reject Racism! Support The Marcel KhalifeConcert in
> San Diego! (Marguerite Horberg)
> 5. possible discussion topic for APAP (Marguerite Horberg)
> 6. Re: Second Life (Angel Romero)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:47:39 -0400
> From: "Cantor Navas, Judy" <Judy.CantorNavas at mtvstaff.com>
> Subject: [FA Worldmusic] Re :Experiments in Marketing Global Music in
> the Online
> To: <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>, <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
>
> I'm so glad you're continuing this conversation at WOMEX Dmitri. I will be on
> assignment in Buenos Aires so will not be attending this year, but thanks for
> this chance to speak up from the digital music service side.
>
> I was Latin & World programmer for MTV digital music service URGE and now
> working in same capacity at RHAPSODY.
>
> As with URGE, RHAPSODY has a great catalogue of international music coming
> from labels and aggregators.
>
> For me the issue is still that I'm not getting enough communication from
> labels and publicists regarding releases (new and catalogue titles).
>
> Fundamentally please provide digital music release date information on the
> press release. The service can get thousands of tracks in each day, and of
> course if I am not alerted to when the music will be available ahead of time
> it is difficult to promote it as this is decided in advance, and I just do not
> have time to inquire about the release date of the many advance CDs I receive
> without this information (and it is not always the same as the physical
> release date).
>
> I realize there are time issues for label people as well, but when you can
> follow through with your aggregators to know the exact date a release will
> reach the digital stores that would be so helpful, and I expect you would see
> more promotion and I hope more sales of your music this way. I'm trying to
> give global music as much exposure as possible and I need as much information
> as possible to do so. I assume that programmers at other digital outlets feel
> the same way.
>
> Also always looking to do interviews, playlists with/ stories about artists
> which can appear on the site, in the service and also on the Rhapsody blog:
> Please take a look:
> http://blog.rhapsody.com/2007/09/the-unsinkable-.html#more
>
> It seems that labels and publicists in other genres (pop, hip-hop, Latin) are
> much more aware of or simply more interested in these opportunities then those
> that work with what can be categorized at world. I hope that can change.
>
> Please check out RHAPSODY and contact me as you like. www.rhapsody.com
>
> Thank You!
>
> Judy Cantor-Navas
> Latin & World Music Programmer
> RHAPSODY/MTV Digital Music Group
> O: 212.846,3178
> C: 305.609.8593
> www.rhapsody.com <http://www.rhapsody.com>
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> judy.cantornavas at mtvstaff.com <mailto:judy.cantornavas at mtvn.com>
>
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> 1. Experiments in Marketing Global Music in the Online Economy
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> 2. Canadian-Ukrainian Prairie Music in NYC Oct 16-22 (Pete Rushefsky)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:55:31 -0400
> From: "Dmitri Vietze" <music at rockpaperscissors.biz>
> Subject: [FA Worldmusic] Experiments in Marketing Global Music in the
> Online Economy
> To: <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> In light of the emerging discussion from Robert about the use of technology
> for language translation, I was wondering if I could enlist your help. At
> WOMEX at the end of this month, I am running a session titled: "Digital
> Market
> Explosion - Experiments in Marketing Global Music in the Online Economy" (Oct
> 25, 15:00-15:45, nr-2).
>
> Similar to the session I facilitated at Arts Presenters in January on the
> topic, I would like to use a wiki model... that is rather than presenting as
> an expert on the subject, I would like the large field of professionals to
> share their experiments, thoughts, ideas on this subject. This means: A. for
> those of you not attending WOMEX, pipe up here and now and B. those who are
> attending, please consider attending with your ideas at the ready (and
> letting
> us know on this listserv what you have in mind, so that I can make sure to
> make space for you during the session). That January session was, for me, the
> first time I really substantively saw intergenerational confusion in the
> "world music" field in North America.
>
> The last time around a lot of people were still getting together their
> MySpace
> pages (or getting their first feedback as to whether it was working), using
> YouTube for the first time, hearing about Pandora/Last.FM. Now only a mere
> nine months later, I really want to hear what online tools and other new
> technologies you are using for your artists, labels, retailers, venues, etc.
> Who is using ring tones, mass text messaging, twitter, facebook, promonet,
> electronic radio tracking, etc. and how is it going? What are your favorite
> new tools online changing the way you do business?
>
> Much respect,
>
> Dmitri Vietze
> rock paper scissors, inc.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:35:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Pete Rushefsky <klezbanjo at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [FA Worldmusic] Canadian-Ukrainian Prairie Music in NYC Oct
> 16-22
> To: fa-worldmusic at folk.org
>
> The Center for Traditional Music and Dance, Ukrainian Wave Community Cultural
> Initiative, and the New York Bandura Ensemble present
>
> Sounds of the Prairies: Music and Dance of
> the Ukrainian Settlers of Western Canada
> Music, dance, workshop, and lecture programs by visiting
> Canadian Ukrainian artists and scholars, October 16th 22nd
> at multiple collaborating venues in Manhattan
>
> TUESDAY OCTOBER 16TH-THURSDAY OCTOBER 18TH
> Prairie Dance Music Workshops
> With tsymbalist and scholar Brian Cherwick. Sessions designed to introduce
> Ukrainian prairie
> dance tunes and playing techniques to all interested musicians, on the
> tsymbaly (Ukrainian hammered dulcimer) and other acoustic folk instruments.
> Ukrainian East Village Restaurant (140 Second Avenue between 8th and 9th)
> General Tunes and Techniques Workshop, three, 2-hr sessions Tues-Thurs
> Hammered Dulcimer Workshop, two, 2-hr sessions, Tues-Wed Register now
> at 212-571-1555 ext. 35
>
> FRIDAY, OCTOBER 19th 7 p.m.
> Sounds of the Prairies: Music of the Ukrainian Settlers in Western Canada
> This opening concert in New York Bandura Ensemble s Bandura Downtown series
> introduces audiences to the music of the Ukrainian prairie dance bands in
> western Canada. In conjunction with the Museum s exhibit Thread to the Past:
> Folk Art from the 1933 Chicago World s Fair. 222 East 6th Street between 2nd
> and 3rd
> Tickets $15.00 (member/student/ senior discounts available) Reserve
> tickets now at 212-228-0110
>
> SATURDAY, OCTOBER 20th 7:30-11 p.m.
> Western Canadian Vechornytsi (Village Dance Party)
> An evening of Ukrainian traditional dance, western-Canadian style, with
> instruction by dance master and scholar Andriy Nahachewsky (University of
> Alberta) and prairie dance band music by Brian Cherwick and
> New York musicians, plus a jam session. At Ukrainian East Village
> Restaurant (140 Second Avenue
> between 8th and 9th) $10.00 adults, $5.00 children
>
> MONDAY, OCTOBER 22nd Noon-2 p.m.
> Lectures on the History of Ukrainian Folk Dance and Music in Western Canada
> Two research-based presentations on the transformation and evolution of
> Ukrainian folk dance and music forms from Ukrainian settlement in western
> Canada to the present, by Dr. Brian Cherwick and Dr. Andriy Nahachewsky. Room
> 1219, Harriman Institute, Columbia University
> 420 West 118th Street - 12th Floor MC 3345 FREE
>
> For further information contact the Center for Traditional Music and Dance
> at 212-571-1555 ext. 35 or visit www.ctmd.org.
>
> Major support for the Ukrainian Wave Community Cultural Initiative at the
> Center for Traditional Music and Dance was provided by the National Endowment
> for the Arts Heritage and Preservation Program, the New York State Music Fund,
> established by the New York State Attorney General at the Rockefeller
> Philanthropy Advisors, and American Express Company. Additional support was
> provided by the New York State Council on the Arts, a State agency, public
> funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs, and Con Edison.
> Support for Sounds of the Prairies programs provided by Alberta Foundation
> for the Arts.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:38:00 -0400
> From: "Dmitri Vietze" <music at rockpaperscissors.biz>
> Subject: [FA Worldmusic] Second Life
> To: <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
>
> Have any of you explored Second Life, the online virtual reality environment?
> You get an "avatar" (that is, a virtual being) and then interact with others.
> The reason I ask is because my brother in law is an artist who started the
> first SL artists colony where they actually show art exhibits. He showed me
> how they have concerts there with live musicians playing in some remote part
> of the world to virtual people who are sitting all over the world but
> listening via their avatars. From what I could see there was a lot of
> singer-songwriter type of stuff, not any specifically global genres, but it
> sure seems like a ripe medium for global connections. There are theaters and
> clubs who have built replicas of their real venues in SL and then they have a
> combination of live theater audiences and virtual audiences; sometimes they
> even project the SL interactions on a big screen so you get this real
> world/virtual world melding/interactivity. The only major "world music"
> presence I could find easily were these DJed reggae clubs, which I think ad as
> much to do with pick up lines as music. But maybe some of you have seen
> something else there?
>
> You may be wondering if there is money to be made on SL... I know my brother
> in law artist gets a ton of work from his presence there. Like major
> corporations hiring him for creating art thematically tied to their mission
> statements, etc. As for musicians, it may be more for promotion, though
> technically you can charge admission or use a donation box. I am sure for
> major artists it would be a way to tap fans who could not otherwise go to your
> concerts. But for smaller names, it might be too hard to attract enough people
> to actually charge something. But you might turn someone on to your music for
> the first time.
>
> Much respect,
>
> ===> Dmitri!
> music at rockpaperscissors.biz
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:15:05 -0400
> From: "Dmitri Vietze" <music at rockpaperscissors.biz>
> Subject: [FA Worldmusic] Fw: Reject Racism! Support The Marcel Khalife
> Concert in San Diego!
> To: <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Zahi Damuni
> To: Al-Awda-San-Diego at yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 2:37 PM
> Subject: Reject Racism! Support The Marcel Khalife Concert in San Diego!
>
>
> ACTION ALERT
>
> For Immediate Release
> October 4, 2007
>
> Reject Racism! Support The Marcel Khalife Concert in San Diego!
>
> Many thanks to all those who have thus far made reservations for the Marcel
> Khalife concert that will take place at the beautiful and friendly Birch
> North Park Theater on Sunday October 14, 2007 in San Diego. Khalife opened
> the first leg of his tour in several venues across Canada to rave reviews.
> Here is one such review:
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071002.KHALIFE02/TPStory/T
> PEntertainment/Music/
>
> Khalife's concert tour will have 18 venues in the US, three of which are in
> California. It also includes two nights at the Kennedy Center in Washington,
> DC. San Diegans are in for a great experience!
>
> For those who plan to attend, please go to
> http://al-awdasandiego.org/marcel/khalife.html for information on how to
> obtain your tickets.
>
> As you may know, the original venue at the Salvation Army's Joan B Kroc
> Theater, was cancelled this August, six months after we believed we had
> secured the venue by paying the required deposit in February 2007, following
> the renters instructions we were provided, as well as working communications
> with the management.
>
> Al-Awda San Diego considers the venue cancellation by the Salvation Army,
> its late timing, and the manner in which it was conveyed, as a violation of
> our agreement and insulting and dismissive to our community, our
> organization and Marcel Khalife, the artist. We consider this a form of
> cultural discrimination. The Salvation Army it seems insists on viewing a
> cultural event through a political lens because our organization, the
> presenter of the concert, advocates for the rights of Palestinian refugees.
> Such a view is politically racist and we do not tolerate it.
>
> For additional background information concerning our interaction with the
> Salvation Army, please go to http://al-awdasandiego.org/salvation_army.html
>
> What You Can Do
>
> 1. Show your rejection of the Salvation Army decision by attending the
> concert which will take place in San Diego at the Birch North Park Theater
> on Sunday October 14, 2007. Support the artist, our community and Al-Awda by
> rejecting racism. Please go to
> http://al-awdasandiego.org/marcel/khalife.html for information on how to
> obtain your tickets.
>
> 2. To support the concert and help defray some of the costs incurred due
> to the change of venue, please consider the available sponsorship
> opportunities described at: http://al-awdasandiego.org/marcel/sponsors.html
>
> 3. Write to the Salvation Army to express your opinion at their decision.
> Here
> are some suggested talking points:
>
> *The Palestine Right to Return Coalition's advocacy for the natural,
> inalienable and fundamental right of Palestinian refugees to return to their
> land and homes of origin is based on universal values. Point out that the
> right to return to one's home is enshrined in the Universal Declaration of
> Human Rights, International Law, and that, for Palestinian refugees, this
> right has been affirmed more than 130 times by the United Nations since
> General Assembly resolution 194 of 1948.
>
> *Marcel Khalife is a UNESCO artist for peace. His concert is being hosted by
> The Palestine Right to Return Coalition in San Diego because it is
> consistent with the organization's advocacy.
>
> *The venue denial by the Salvation Army is a form of cultural
> discrimination. The Salvation Army insistence on viewing a cultural event
> with a political lens is because the presenter of the concert is an
> organization which advocates for the rights of Palestinian refugees. Such a
> view is racist, outrageous and intolerable.
>
> * The Palestine Right to Return Coalition's mission is based on universal
> values. To characterize these values as sectarian is to say that they should
> not apply to Palestinians. The Salvation Army's opposition to the
> application of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to Palestinians is
> politically motivated racism.
>
> Please address your correspondence to:
>
> Captain John Van Cleef, Administrator
> The Salvation Army Kroc Center San Diego
> Tel: 1-619-269-1401
> Fax: 1-619-255-7206
> Email: John.Van.Cleef at usw.salvationarmy.org
>
> Ms. Cathie Hyatt, Manager
> Joan B. Kroc Theatre, Performing Arts Center
> The Salvation Army Kroc Center San Diego
> Tel: 1-619-269-1551
> Fax: 1-619-255-7206
> Email: Cathie.Hyatt at usw.salvationarmy.org
>
> Ms. Kathy Lovin
> The Salvation Army Western Territory
> Long Beach, California
> Email: Kathy_Lovin at usw.salvationarmy.org
> Tel: 1-562-491-8751
>
> Please cc your correspondence to alerts at al-awdasandiego.org
>
> Al-Awda San Diego
> The Palestine Right to Return Coalition
> PO Box 131352
> Carlsbad, CA 92013, USA
> Tel: 760-685-3243
> Fax: 360-933-3568
> Email: info at al-awdasandiego.org
> WEB: http://al-awdasandiego.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:35:02 -0500
> From: "Marguerite Horberg" <hothouse at core.com>
> Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] Fw: Reject Racism! Support The Marcel
> KhalifeConcert in San Diego!
> To: "Dmitri Vietze" <music at rockpaperscissors.biz>,
> <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
>
> I am obviously am out of the loop regarding the NA presenters Coalition as
> to who the board or steering committee is and am unclear regarding the
> differences regarding emails I receive from NA presenters as opposed to ones
> emanating from FA worldwide - all that aside - Is it not possible to respond
> as a community via a letter written by the steering committee on behalf of
> these list serves?
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:37:41 -0500
> From: "Marguerite Horberg" <hothouse at core.com>
> Subject: [FA Worldmusic] possible discussion topic for APAP
> To: "Dmitri Vietze" <music at rockpaperscissors.biz>,
> <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
>
> On a different note: Would having part of the NA presenters session
> dedicated to the downward changes in the US economy and what that means for
> importing talent be of interest to anyone besides myself? Dollar down, visa
> costs and travel up- ticket prices flat- etc.
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:01:56 -0400
> From: Angel Romero <aromero at ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] Second Life
> To: Dmitri Vietze <music at rockpaperscissors.biz>,
> fa-worldmusic at folk.org
>
> I've been to Second Life many times and created three different
> characters. It's a controversial place because despite having millions
> of registered users, there are very few thousands online at the same
> time so exposure and interaction is very limited. What that means is
> that you ran into numerous places that are empty. And you have to pay in
> order to access a lot of the cool features.
>
> If you have the time, it's fun to explore. I stumbled upon a house that
> had large drums that you could play. I found places where they play
> reggae, Flamenco and other stuff, but, again, many times they are empty
> when I visit them.
>
> Lately, I got bored of it. I think there is potential in something like
> this, but it will time for it to truly blossom.
>
> Angel Romero
>
> Dmitri Vietze wrote:
> > Have any of you explored Second Life, the online virtual reality environment?
> > You get an "avatar" (that is, a virtual being) and then interact with others.
> > The reason I ask is because my brother in law is an artist who started the
> > first SL artists colony where they actually show art exhibits. He showed me
> > how they have concerts there with live musicians playing in some remote part
> > of the world to virtual people who are sitting all over the world but
> > listening via their avatars. From what I could see there was a lot of
> > singer-songwriter type of stuff, not any specifically global genres, but it
> > sure seems like a ripe medium for global connections. There are theaters and
> > clubs who have built replicas of their real venues in SL and then they have a
> > combination of live theater audiences and virtual audiences; sometimes they
> > even project the SL interactions on a big screen so you get this real
> > world/virtual world melding/interactivity. The only major "world music"
> > presence I could find easily were these DJed reggae clubs, which I think ad as
> > much to do with pick up lines as music. But maybe some of you have seen
> > something else there?
> >
> > You may be wondering if there is money to be made on SL... I know my brother
> > in law artist gets a ton of work from his presence there. Like major
> > corporations hiring him for creating art thematically tied to their mission
> > statements, etc. As for musicians, it may be more for promotion, though
> > technically you can charge admission or use a donation box. I am sure for
> > major artists it would be a way to tap fans who could not otherwise go to your
> > concerts. But for smaller names, it might be too hard to attract enough people
> > to actually charge something. But you might turn someone on to your music for
> > the first time.
> >
> > Much respect,
> >
> > ===> Dmitri!
> > music at rockpaperscissors.biz
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
> --
>
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> Durham, NC 27704-4406
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