[FA Worldmusic] relativity

Josh Kohn josh at ncta.net
Wed Aug 15 17:02:39 ADT 2007 

There are those festivals that do.  Big ups to Neal Copperman who is  
presenting Kevin Locke this year as part of his Globalquerque.

In selling the past NCTA tour, Music from the Crooked Road: Mountain  
Music of Virginia, there were many presenters I talked to that are or  
would have put this deeply American tour as part of their "World  
Music" series.

-jk


Joshua Kohn
Programming Manager
301-565-0654 x. 15
www.ncta.net






On Aug 15, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Steve Hochman wrote:

> I'm all for it! After all, I went to a "world music" festival in
> Budapest once that featured some Hungarian music in the mix. Why
> shouldn't various North American music styles be included in such an
> event held over here?
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> On Aug 15, 2007, at 1:32 AM, neal copperman - AMP Concerts wrote:
>
>> Hmmmm, isn't it precisely that kind of barrier
>> destroying we are talking about?  I'll
>> occasionally drop a bluegrass, blues or Native
>> American song into my world music show just for
>> that reason. It's not the cornerstone of the
>> shows, as that music is all very well represented
>> on our local radio, but it fits the concept.
>>
>> Similarly in booking our festival.  We have had
>> The Bills, The Red Stick Ramblers and this year
>> Koko Taylor at !Globalquerque!.  North American
>> roots acts are frequently the most popular acts
>> of the weekend, largely because they are the
>> easiest for people to get.  But it also helps
>> people ease into the world music arena.  We have
>> people come to the festival who are dubious about
>> all the different music, but feel that there are
>> enough things there to latch onto that they will
>> be ok, and later discover that some of the
>> "weirder" music isn't so bad.  (Of course, there
>> are world music fans that come as well!)
>>
>> neal
>>
>> .
>>
>> At 4:18 PM -0700 8/14/07, Kutay Kugay wrote:
>>> Bluegrass in definitely world music outside of US.
>>> The reason I would not program it in my radio program or at he SFWMF
>>> in a prominently is because there are many other programs and
>>> presenters focusing on just bluegrass.
>>>
>>> The issue of labeling and identifying artist by country exclusively
>>> and making that a requirement sometimes runs into dispute.
>>> Not only music gets grafted and infused but populations of people do
>>> also. Often tragically. Colonization have produced millions of
>>> assimilated and peoples alienated from their own cultures.
>>> i.e.: Kurds, Kashmiris, Azerbaijanis, Uygurs, Tamashek speakers,  
>>> Sami
>>> people.
>>> One has to render the question not by seeking categorization per se
>>> but by paying attention to characteristics and needs of the
>>> individual.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Kutay
>>>
>>> ______________________________________
>>> Kutay Derin Kugay
>>> San Francisco World Music Festival
>>> Co founder
>>> Door Dog Music Productions
>>> Program Director
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>>> kutay at doordog.org
>>> www.sfworldmusicfestival.org
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 14, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Dmitri Vietze wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Good and bad are in the eyes of the beholders. And what each  
>>>> person
>>>>  perceives as good or bad includes a lot of data that has less  
>>>> to do
>>>>  with
>>>>  issues of technical skill, production quality, and even musical
>>>>  passion, and
>>>>  more to do with subconscious factors. Including what friends  
>>>> listen
>>>>  to,
>>>>  personal and cultural identity, what people think they are
>>>>  "supposed to
>>>>  listen to" to fit into their affinity groups, and some wacky song
>>>>  they heard
>>>>  on the radio when they were a kid and their parents turned it off,
>>>>  etc. So
>>>>  in the end, if we eliminate labels and categories, how do we talk
>>>>  about
>>>>  music?
>>>>
>>>>  I still think there is a place for organizing music and presenting
>>>>  it in a
>>>>  framework. I think it is interesting how emotional some people get
>>>>  about how
>>>>  you should or shouldn't categorize music, how certain music
>>>> should or
>>>>  shouldn't be grouped together. (Heck, why call it music? Let's
>>>> call it
>>>>  sound.) The point is that with so much sound out there, it is
>>>>  helpful to
>>>>  create entry-points for newcomers to a particular sound, and
>>>> reference
>>>>  points for talking about sound when playing the sound is not
>>>> feasible.
>>>>
>>>>  The question is how to create entry-points for people in (North)
>>>>  America to
>>>>  listen to music in other languages, with other rhythms, harmonic
>>>>  structures,
>>>>  timbres, etc. In an ethnocentric USA, is it really the same for
>>>>  global music
>>>>  forms as it is for other forms of music? How many of you in the  
>>>> so-
>>>> called
>>>>  "world music" field have promoted a concert, sold a CD, etc.
>>>> without
>>>>  mentioning the country of origin of an artist. Isn't that just
>>>> another
>>>>  category?
>>>>
>>>>  Much respect,
>>>>
>>>>  ===> Dmitri!
>>>>  music at rockpaperscissors.biz
>>>>
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: "Phil Ballman" <philballman at gmail.com>
>>>>  To: <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 1:42 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] FA-Worldmusic Digest, Vol 18,  
>>>> Issue 14
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>  What I meant is I'm not a fan of music categorization.  It
>>>>>>  results in
>>>>>>  arbitrary boundaries that encourage pre-conceived biases and
>>>>>>  discourage open-minded listening.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Bill, I'm with you 100%. Forget categories; just listen. I hate
>>>>>  the term
>>>>>  "world music", it's awful.
>>>>>
>>>>>  My man Duke Ellington perhaps put it best:
>>>>>  "There are only two kinds of music: good and bad."
>>>>>
>>>>>  Phil
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