[FA Worldmusic] relativity

[Kutay Kugay]

Bluegrass in definitely world music outside of US.
The reason I would not program it in my radio program or at he SFWMF  
in a prominently is because there are many other programs and  
presenters focusing on just bluegrass.

The issue of labeling and identifying artist by country exclusively  
and making that a requirement sometimes runs into dispute.
Not only music gets grafted and infused but populations of people do  
also. Often tragically. Colonization have produced millions of  
assimilated and peoples alienated from their own cultures.
i.e.: Kurds, Kashmiris, Azerbaijanis, Uygurs, Tamashek speakers, Sami  
people.
One has to render the question not by seeking categorization per se  
but by paying attention to characteristics and needs of the individual.

Regards
Kutay

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Kutay Derin Kugay
San Francisco World Music Festival
Co founder
Door Dog Music Productions
Program Director
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Kutay Derin Kugay
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Kutay Derin Kugay
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On Aug 14, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Dmitri Vietze wrote:

> Good and bad are in the eyes of the beholders. And what each person
> perceives as good or bad includes a lot of data that has less to do  
> with
> issues of technical skill, production quality, and even musical  
> passion, and
> more to do with subconscious factors. Including what friends listen  
> to,
> personal and cultural identity, what people think they are  
> "supposed to
> listen to" to fit into their affinity groups, and some wacky song  
> they heard
> on the radio when they were a kid and their parents turned it off,  
> etc. So
> in the end, if we eliminate labels and categories, how do we talk  
> about
> music?
>
> I still think there is a place for organizing music and presenting  
> it in a
> framework. I think it is interesting how emotional some people get  
> about how
> you should or shouldn't categorize music, how certain music should or
> shouldn't be grouped together. (Heck, why call it music? Let's call it
> sound.) The point is that with so much sound out there, it is  
> helpful to
> create entry-points for newcomers to a particular sound, and reference
> points for talking about sound when playing the sound is not feasible.
>
> The question is how to create entry-points for people in (North)  
> America to
> listen to music in other languages, with other rhythms, harmonic  
> structures,
> timbres, etc. In an ethnocentric USA, is it really the same for  
> global music
> forms as it is for other forms of music? How many of you in the so- 
> called
> "world music" field have promoted a concert, sold a CD, etc. without
> mentioning the country of origin of an artist. Isn't that just another
> category?
>
> Much respect,
>
> ===> Dmitri!
> music at rockpaperscissors.biz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Ballman" <philballman at gmail.com>
> To: <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] FA-Worldmusic Digest, Vol 18, Issue 14
>
>
>>> What I meant is I'm not a fan of music categorization.  It  
>>> results in
>>> arbitrary boundaries that encourage pre-conceived biases and
>>> discourage open-minded listening.
>>
>> Bill, I'm with you 100%. Forget categories; just listen. I hate  
>> the term
>> "world music", it's awful.
>>
>> My man Duke Ellington perhaps put it best:
>> "There are only two kinds of music: good and bad."
>>
>> Phil
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