[FA Worldmusic] music chains and knowledge transfer

[Bill Bragin]

"I wish labels would just go away."

This is a pretty controversial thing to say....not that it isn't the
first time I've heard people make a statement like this on a list-serve.


But what do you mean by it?




-----Original Message-----
From: fa-worldmusic-bounces+bbragin=publictheater.org at folk.org
[mailto:fa-worldmusic-bounces+bbragin=publictheater.org at folk.org] On
Behalf Of Dore Stein
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:36 AM
To: Gail Sidibe
Cc: fa-worldmusic at folk.org
Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] music chains and knowledge transfer

Just my two cents but I have a hard time accepting New Age listeners
morphing into World Music listeners. Other than chant and meditative
recordings such as on Sounds True, I don't see the connection.

I wish labels would just go away. (Spoken as a programmer, not a
marketer.)

Looking forward to seeing many of you at WOMEX.

Dore Stein
tangents.com



On 8/13/07, Gail Sidibe <gsidibe at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have to chime in here!
>
> Being involved in music retail all these years one of the "trends" I
noticed
> went like this...
>
> New Age listeners of the '80's became World Music listeners in the
'90's.
> That's of course a generalization, but as New Age sales declined -
World
> music sales increased. Think Loreena McKennitt. All the world
influences on
> New Age music opened so many doors for many people. Deep Forest comes
to
> mind. Enigma. Not necessarily New Age. But this was "accessible" cross
over
> music to many.
>
> I know my next statement may be controversial to some... But I also
believe
> Peter Gabriel and Realworld helped bridge the gap for many people many
years
> ago as well. In some ways this represents my personal path.
>
>
> On 8/13/07, Dmitri Vietze <music at rockpaperscissors.biz> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I grew up with my mother listening to Alan Stivell and Balkan folk
dance
> > music. When Graceland came out she bought that and started
backtracking to
> > artists like Miriam Makeba, who her parents had listened to out of
their
> > interest in the New York Jewish union-organizing folk days. And then
Luaka
> > Bop cracked things open with the Brazilian compilations and a
Haitian one.
> > Independent from that, I went from late 1980s socially conscious hip
hop
> > (KRS One, Stetsasonic, Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest) to
listening to
> > jazz (because of the jazz samples in hip hop) to taking a History of
Jazz
> > class in college, whose first class was about the African roots of
blues
> > (field hollers as African knowledge transfer to the Americas). And
before
> > that, influenced by the street performers of NYC, I started
experimenting
> > with bamboo flutes, panpipes, and Bolivian quenas. There was this
guy
> > named
> > the Goat Man (white beard) who played a bamboo flute accompanying
himself
> > on
> > a shruti box (free reed Indian drone bellows), which he played with
his
> > foot.
> >
> > I have heard that there has been some debate in the jazz realm about
> > whether
> > smooth jazz leads people "up the chain" to jazz. Some people thought
it
> > would and then later realized it didn't. I wonder what research has
been
> > done out there about the influence of samples in one genre of music
> > leading
> > to interest in another genre. Also about whether/how often customers
who
> > make impulse buys of compilations (such as those by Putumayo), "move
up
> > the
> > chain," and research deeper into an artist catalog or into a
particular
> > genre or cultural repertoire.
> >
> > Much respect,
> >
> > ===> Dmitri!
> > music at rockpaperscissors.biz
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Weisberg" <robwv at panix.com>
> > To: "fa-world music list" <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
> > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 6:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] knowledge transfer...
> >
> >
> > > Testimonial:
> > >
> > > My personal case history (age 44):  I heard the Specials, Selecter
and
> > > Beat in high school, I followed the trail to the Intensified
> > compilations
> > > of 60s Jamaican ska and rock steady - and the rest is history!
> > >
> > > An old but fun radio dj trick (and educational, kiddies!) is to do
sets
> > > based around this kind of musical chain)...
> > >
> > > Rob W / WFMU / http://www.wfmu.org/tsp
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