[FA Worldmusic] knowledge transfer and marketing across generations

[Dmitri Vietze]

Very interesting perspective on all this, Ali. Thx!

When you say <<I am not too certain that the world music ghetto is all that 
bad a place anymore>> can you say more? What is better in the WM scene that 
is better than in the pop/rock/etc. scenes?

Much respect,

===> Dmitri!
music at rockpaperscissors.biz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ali Sachedina" <ali at invasiongroup.com>
To: "Dmitri Vietze" <music at rockpaperscissors.biz>
Cc: <fa-worldmusic at folk.org>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] knowledge transfer and marketing across 
generations


Dear All:

I realize that the initial text of this discussion was rap/surf rock
- ie: what are otherwise "Western" repertoires, but the discussion
holds true for artists from other traditions as well.   In the case
of some of the modern South Asian artists whom I have had the
pleasure of working with, it often comes down to an issue of
"educating" the listener/presenter/distributor - whether via
publicity materials, liner notes, interviews, etc.   It's about
giving the music "context".

Often enough, we find kids being able to appreciate the music of
their parents generation through a medium that is otherwise Western.
We receive testimonials on a very regular basis attesting that "my
father and I finally sat down and listened to your album..this is the
first album that we both equally appreciate..me for the drum n bass/
rock element, him for the classical indian element."

I received many of my early introductions to classic stevie wonder,
dave brubeck, curtis mayfield, otis redding listening to early hip hop.

as for the "world music ghetto" debate that I was so passionate about
in my early days in the music business:   having been working in the
pop, rock, electronica, and hip hop genres as the legal/biz affairs
partner at a record label (UFO Music) and as a music attorney, and
having seen first hand what the the retail and live music scene has
to offer in those genres...I am not too certain that the world music
ghetto is all that bad a place anymore....

btw: I thought I would share an interesting bit in a blog I frequent
regularly (Sepia Mutiny) citing a Pitchfork interview with Sri Lankan/
English emcee "MIA" where she describes her working relationship with
her producer Diplo and how it's played up in the press:

M.I.A.: If you read the credits, he sent me a loop for Bucky Done
Gun, and I made a song in London, and it became Bucky Done Gun.
But that was the only song he was actually involved in on Arular. So
the whole time Ive had immigration problems and not been able to get
in the country, what I am or what I do has got a life of its own, and
is becoming less and less to do with me. And I just find it a bit
upsetting and kind of insulting that I cant have any ideas on my own
because Im a female or that people from undeveloped countries cant
have ideas of their own unless its backed up by someone whos blond-
haired and blue-eyed. After the first time its cool, the second time
its cool, but after like the third, fourth, fifth time, maybe its
an issue that we need to talk about, maybe thats something
important, you know.

here's the link:

http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004627.html

enjoy.

ali
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On Aug 10, 2007, at 4:26 PM, Dmitri Vietze wrote:

> I think the recent discussion about (mis)interpretations of the  origins 
> of one
> song -- one perspective surf rock and another early rap -- brings  up the 
> issue
> of cross-generational reference points. I am curious what practices 
> people on
> this list (presenters, labels, retailers, media, and others) have 
> implemented
> to:
>
> 1. step out of their own generational reference points to  communicate 
> with
> other generations of fans, consumers, and readers/listeners
>
> 2. address the issue of aesthetics across generations in marketing 
> materials
>
> I think a lot of the debate about the "world music ghetto" has to  do with 
> how
> music is presented. What are the visual and semantic cues that  accompany
> certain forms of "world music?"
>
> Much respect,
>
> Dmitri Vietze
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