[FA Worldmusic] 17 Hippies controversy

[Imbizo at aol.com]

And Incredible Bongo Band's Apache - which was the  version forever to be 
associated with hip-hop and Kool Herc - was  re-issued last year by Mr. Bongo 
Records on "12, double vinyl and CD.
Available at all good record stores or you can send me a check :)   Best 
price, I promise !
Best
Mel Puljic
(US Label Manager for Mr. Bongo Records, Wrasse Records and Sheer  Sound)
 
 

I am  sorry Bill but it was a classic even before it was on the Hip-hop
scene  (then known as 'rap")..APACHE was a hit song for the VENTURES as
well, and  it was a staple "cover" for a lot of the "so-called guitar
bands" of the  sixties.

-----Original Message-----
From:  fa-worldmusic-bounces+yusuf=fourquartersent.com at folk.org
[mailto:fa-worldmusic-bounces+yusuf=fourquartersent.com at folk.org]  On
Behalf Of Bill Bragin
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:09 PM
To:  Dmitri Vietze; fa-worldmusic at folk.org
Subject: Re: [FA Worldmusic] 17  Hippies controversy

Apache is absolutely a hip-hop classic, even if it  has earlier sources,
just as much as I Will Always Love you is a defining  soul ballad
classic, even if Dolly Parton wrote it.

Where you are  wrong is that it was Sugarhill gang, not Afrika Bambaata.
And you can see a  hugely offensive video here (though I guess the fake
Native American  characatures and bongos help it to qualify as world
Music)"Tonto, jump opon  it. Kimopsabi, jump on  it..."
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TJL8jDvukew

Sugar Hill gang were  really drawing from the Incredible Bongo Band's
version:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=kTvkoakkMX4


But, there are lots of other  great versions:

The Shadows;  http://youtube.com/watch?v=tFwVSYQ3GUQ
The Ventures:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=tFwVSYQ3GUQ
Danish Disco version:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=eTKL8MNH95Q (I think
the outfits rival Sugar  Hill Gang's)

And a Prodigy video mash-up of the  same:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-COGNOY3Nic

Yes, it's a rainy  Friday...



-----Original Message-----
From:  fa-worldmusic-bounces+bbragin=publictheater.org at folk.org
[mailto:fa-worldmusic-bounces+bbragin=publictheater.org at folk.org]  On
Behalf Of Dmitri Vietze
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:52 PM
To:  fa-worldmusic at folk.org
Subject: [FA Worldmusic] 17 Hippies  controversy

OK, so I have now been slapped on the wrist twice for  calling Apache a
"hip 
hop classic." See below. Another "elder" (ha,  haaaa! no harm meant) of
our 
community took the time from their busy  schedule to call me and tell me
the 
song had earlier origins in some  old cowboy flick or something. (Though
that 
person got credit for  catching the Afrika Bambata reference, in spite of
me 
being wrong,  wrong wrong.) So in addition to booking 17 Hippies this 
September, you  could schedule a debate and discussion on the multiple 
histories of the  song "Apache."

("Kimosobi, jump on it!, jump on it, jump on  it!)

Much respect,

===>  Dmitri!
music at rockpaperscissors.biz

----- Original Message -----  
> At 10:02 AM 8/10/2007, you wrote:
>>Apache (yes, that's  right, folks! The hip hop classic done
acoustically 
>>and  in
>>a Turkish 9/8 rhythm!)
>
> Oh, dude, you are  S0-0-0-0 showing your youth. <g>
>
> "Apache" was a 1960s  surf-guitar hit for The Challengers, written by
Jerry 
> Lawler, ...  a little early for hip-hop. <g>
>
> I'll give you the 9/8  rhythm, though.  
_______________________________________________
FA-Worldmusic mailing  list
FA-Worldmusic at folk.org
http://www.folkserv.net/mailman/listinfo/fa-worldmusic
_______________________________________________
FA-Worldmusic  mailing  list
FA-Worldmusic at folk.org
http://www.folkserv.net/mailman/listinfo/fa-worldmusic
_______________________________________________
FA-Worldmusic  mailing  list
FA-Worldmusic at folk.org
http://www.folkserv.net/mailman/listinfo/fa-worldmusic







************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at 
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour